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Journal Entry: Wed Apr 16, 2014, 1:23 PM

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I am glad to hear that one of the commissions will be finished. I look forward to seeing everyone get theirs. I hope you are all treated well and wish the best to all involved in the situation. Again, I wrote this journal because my conscience would not let me continue to ignore this issue. It looks like it is on the right track now. Thank you, :iconsailorminimuffin:, for doing the right thing.


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It seems that after continual messaging, she managed to put a WIP picture, the first after eight months. We'll see if she actually delivers. Still be cautious.


Before I say anything, let me say this. I absolutely hate confrontation, and I always wish and hope for the best in people. This journal is not meant for anything but a warning and I encourage that after reading this, please dear watchers, do not go and use this as a gossip thread or a place to say mean things. I am only doing this to pass on information, and I hate that it has come to this.

Do not buy from :iconsailorminimuffin:. It is my belief, after continual proof, that she is a thief and has scammed people out of commissions and have run with their money.



I would not say this without being very sure of this claim, as I truly do want to believe the best in people. Let me start with a personal experience, and continue with another's.

January of last year, Sailor asked me to do a plush trade with her, to which I accepted. I wanted her to make Rarity,my mother's favorite, so I could give it to her as a surprise on Mother's Day. I completed my part of the trade, a filly flitter plush. I am glad I didn't send it off, trusting I'd get my half, as I now believe she never had any intention of sending me a Rarity to begin with.

Mother's Day was in May, and around late March I was getting a little worried. I asked her politely for how my plush was going, and she hid my comment, noting me privately responding that she didn't want me doing that. It made her look bad, she said. First reg flag. She gave me some sort of excuse about not having time, but continued to complete plushies regularly to sell on eBay. Why was it so hard to make my one Rarity for our trade?

Fast forward about a month, I finally give up. I send her a note, saying that I can no longer wait. I explain that it was a Mother's Day gift (again) and that it's put me in a pinch. I say I'll sell her filly Flitter to help pay for a different Rarity. I get no response, ever. No apology or anything. (By the way, I commissioned a Rarity out of my own pocket upfront, assuming I could sell Flitter and make up the difference. Over a year later, she is still with me. Because I couldn't commission until last minute, I got my mom's gift about a month after Mother's Day. It is Sailor's fault I didn't have a gift.)


I kept seeing other people asking about their commissions, even saying that they are worried she'd taken their money and run. I'd include their usernames for a quote from them; sadly, those, too, are hidden. Seems very fishy.

Finally, my friend, :iconkazzysplushemporium:, paid $186 last September for a beanie pony from SailorMiniMuffin-eight months ago. She never got back in touch with Kaz, and around February she asked Sailor if she had any WiP pictures. She said she did, and never sent any. Now, in April, she is ignoring and hiding her messages. Why else would you do that if you were not trying to scam people?

Thankfully I did have the sense this time to screenshot the hidden messages, I wish I had done that with the other messages over the last several months before she hid them:



As you can see, they are now hidden. She has not made the commission, yet she still found time to make a pony for eBay. Please, do not trust her. If you have any other proof or if you have had a negative experience with her as a customer, please speak up. People need to know. This is not right and she should not get away with doing this to more people. If you have recently paid her for a commission (withing the past 45 days), please save a lot of heartache and get your money back from paypal. This person cannot be trusted.

  • Listening to: Foster The People
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dimminglightpon3 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
thanks for the warning Sophillia
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Rocketkittens Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2014
also, thanks again for posting this!
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:iconmylittlemerch:
Mylittlemerch Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2014
Thanks for the update. I'll consider commissioning her in the future again, and at least now I know to be aware of how long it may or may not take. 
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Sophillia Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2014  Student Filmographer
I am very relieved it is being resolved!
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ZowieStardust-MLP Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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ZowieStardust-MLP Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
She just posted pictures of my plush completed: sailorminimuffin.deviantart.co…

All is well I think. C: <3
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Sophillia Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2014  Student Filmographer
Thank you for telling me! That is a load off of my chest. I will update the journal.
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Rocketkittens Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2014
I really hope she was just taking a reeeaalllly long time, all the facts suggest other wise though. If she was really having trouble with time or something came up, she should have told people, not doing so makes it look like she is stealing...and there's a high chance she may have. Kind of suspicious she just recently posted her WIP's. When someone pays you to do a job and you don't produce it or even reply, then that's a sign that you might have chosen the wrong person to commission from, and those signs show up with Sailor.
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DitaDemone Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2014
Heya.

I'm hoping to bring a slightly different sound to the debate.

I'm the person who bought her Derpy beanie on Ebay, the only one I recall seeing her sell there for many months. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember seeing any other plush from her there in the last five months at least.

Regarding the way the transaction went on, I paid the next two days following the auction, and though I did have a bit of a hard time getting a reply from her, she still responded in a still acceptable and reasonable time frame. (two weeks) As soon as she replied to me, she posted the package and I was receiving the plush about ten days later (sent with USPS to France, which is why I'm not surprised by the delay it took to arrive). She apologized for the delay with her reply : from what I understood she'd had to face several severe family and health problems, hence the delay.

I think we can all understand this. Now, I go by the saying "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me" which is why I'd still show a bit of caution when dealing with her. I don't think she's a bad person or a deliberate thief : she might be terrible at handling personal problems and managing responsibilities. Still, you should probably be aware when contacting her that your plush might take some time to arrive, insist on getting clear information about what delay you are to expect and ask for a "time frame" beyond which you'll want to withdraw unless you get your plush. My advice would be, don't necessarily assume the worst, she might have had her arms full for a while, but still be clear and firm about what you will or will not tolerate in terms of delays and excuses.
 
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Sophillia Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2014  Student Filmographer
Thank you for your input!
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DitaDemone Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2014
Now, I can only agree with other people here that 8 months for a beanie plush and no other significant communication other than smoke screens & tricks isn't, under any excuse, acceptable. I'm still unsure whether or not she's an intentionnally bad person, but these are definitely shady practices. Thanks for bringing it to our attention :)
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Sophillia Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2014  Student Filmographer
Yes. I do genuinely hope that isn't the case :(
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:iconmoggymawee:
moggymawee Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
thanks for posting this!  phewfff, I didn't commission her!  but I've commissioned several other artists on DA who are like this :< grrrr, it's so frustrating
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adamlhumphreys Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2014  Professional General Artist
I know things take me forever, but that's why I don't charge for things until I'm either ready to work on them like OCs, or after I'm done as the case with canon characters. :)
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:iconmoggymawee:
moggymawee Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Yep!  That's totally the way to go!  Some of those artists have already taken full payment and I've had no WIP for 8+ months..... One of them has basically disappeared from DA... her last log in was 1+ month ago... and I've bought from her before so I trusted her.  It was a $800usd comnission too.... Thankfully my deposit wasn't in full, but was still several hundreds.....
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adamlhumphreys Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2014  Professional General Artist
:iconapplejacknoesplz: !
Wow, I'm sorry to here that. :( Nevertheless, I'm glad you're keeping your spirits up. :nod: I certainly haven't forgotten that you want a pony with a costume. I'm thinking Rarity, maybe a bat Rarity. ^^ I'll be doing some accessories soon enough with my current commissions, so I'll definitely be learning! :la:
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moggymawee Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
LOL!!!  Ok, Rarity sounds great!!!  :D she has so many beautiful costumes!!!  would be fun to choose one!!!  Very excited!  ;) (but of course, I'm well aware of how busy you are, so no pressure to rush etc, I'm happy to continue being waitlisted hehe :P) and no worries, it does suck... but I've gotten over it :3 still hoping she'll come back though... it was for Cadence + Shining Armor (Cadence is my fav princess, and one of the very first ponies I commissioned... and I still haven't gotten a plush of her yet... >.>)
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adamlhumphreys Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014  Professional General Artist
:iconraritysmilingplz:
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Oh wow. :iconcadencebluaghplz: But I know what you mean. Someday you'll get her! :D
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Sophillia Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Student Filmographer
Awwm I hate to hear that there are more! There really should be an artist beware list specifically for dA plush artists.
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:iconmoggymawee:
moggymawee Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I reckon!  >.>
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Sophillia Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Student Filmographer
That's terrible. I hate you git ripped off :(
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:iconmoggymawee:
moggymawee Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
:( aww, no worries :) I've gotten over them already :P I'm still sorta giving some of the the benefit of the doubt though :S
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krowvernix Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
SailorMiniMuffin is not a money thief. I commissioned a plush from her last year and she pulled through with lovely results. I do however understand Kazzie's situation. It's a fact of life that people get busy, and sometimes it takes a little longer than it should for stuff to get done, but I do agree that not keeping in contact with customers is inexcusable. 
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GreenTeaCreations Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Thank you for doing this.  You will be saving many people alot of pain.  I sure hope everyone gets their commission, or a refund, but we shall see.  8 months is totally unacceptable, especially when you have someones money.
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SummerisleDog Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014
Hopefully everything will work out.  That is a long wait and anyone would be nervous after that much time has passed.
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Sophillia Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Student Filmographer
Indeed. I truly hope that this is not the case. The amount of evidence made me feel that my own conscience was telling me to warn others.
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SummerisleDog Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014
Thanks for the warning though!  No one wants to be scammed on either side.
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Poizonkitty3 Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
That's shitty, I really liked her plushies and wanted to do a trade with her... thank you very much for the warning! I was scammed once, I don't want it to happen again.
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jesymphony Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014
This is pretty sad :( I commissioned her quite early on when she first started, and I got my Pinkie safe and sound within a reasonable amount of time. It's sad to see that she hasn't been able to keep up with demand or her obligations. 
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ZowieStardust-MLP Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm actually waiting on a beanie plush from her that I ordered this past September or November(my memory is a bit fuzzy), although she did post a wip of the plush's head shortly after I asked about it. Interesting thing is she just uploaded another sip shortly after this journal was posted:
www.deviantart.com/art/Star-St…

When I have contacted her she has always answered me(as far as I can remember). I will say that I'm feeling a bit iffy about all this now having read everything. O_________O;;
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Sophillia Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Student Filmographer
I sincerely hope everything works out and I hope that I am wrong. I really, really do. But it doesn't look good and the fact that she's answered you but not others sounds like she was intentionally ignoring people :/

still, I hope everyone can walk away happy! :hug:
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ZowieStardust-MLP Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
*wip
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bekindsorewind Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014
It looks like she just posted WIPs of your friend's pony... still, pretty ridiculous since it's been 8 months.
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Sophillia Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Student Filmographer
Yeah, sadly that had been after all of this blew up. I question whether she intended to make it at all before having to constantly message her :/ well see if it comes through. I hope so.
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bekindsorewind Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014
She made another person's pony too, so I'm not sure. Maybe it has been sitting around for months and she just took it now? Not sure
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Sophillia Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Student Filmographer
Either way it is inexcusable to wait eight months and purposefully ignore and hide messages. I sincerely hope it all works out.
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Catzilerella Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
So sad about your mothers day gift!
Thats too bad. Maybe she's going through some stuff.  I sometimes can drag out projects because I get to distracted with the every days of life and need the comission work over the trade because of the $$, but definitely no excuse for not keeping in contact with your customers. 
Thank you for the info. 
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drakeo1903 Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thats a real shame. people like these are the reason people dont trust sites like this or people on them anymore. Such a talent going to waste too.... 

wow :/ 

I hope your friend gets SOMETHING or at the very least get banned. 
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drakeo1903 Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
very least THEY get banned* 
not your friend. thatd be bad ;p 
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HallowpointPaws Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks for the heads-up! Can't you buy your mom a Hasbro endorsed Rarity? 
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Sophillia Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Student Filmographer
No prob! She could, but I wanted a custom to give her, to make it special. I'd make it myself but because she helps me with my embroidery she'd know and it wouldn't be a surprise.
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HallowpointPaws Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Even if you got a premade Hasbro Rairity but made a little custom saddle or bridle for her, that would be more special than a private order Rarity made by someone else.
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LittleNespa Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014
if your right then she probely uses the commision money to pay for her own pony materials. how else can she keep making them.
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buttsnstuff Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow that's terrible :[ I've really admired her work up until this point. 
I cant even imagine how much money she's probably stolen
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luckygirl88 Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Student
This seems sad. Thankfully I never have the money for plushies so I'm not worried and as far as the thing I do *not as much*, customizing toy ponies, I haven't heard of problems their. I've heard of thief, but that's it. 
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Ivory-Bolt Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
There are some things I've taken ages on...but I keep in contact with my commissioner and trade partner as best as I can...because I know I've taken forever and feel awful about it XP This is inexcusable. 
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Sophillia Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Student Filmographer
I know :(
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meeselax Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
If you're accusing her of being an art theif, I thought by your journal that she probably is, but then I went to her gallery, and if you right click on the photo then click 'search google for image' it should pop up as posted somewhere else. I did that with multiple plushie photos of hers, each time only leading to her upload. So I don't believe she is. Also she managed to do someone else's pony OC commission. 
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Sophillia Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Student Filmographer
I don't think you understand the situation. She makes her own plush, but she is not making the commissions she is getting paid for. She is a money thief, not an art thief.
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meeselax Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Ohhh okay... sorry
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